Saturday, October 25, 2008

One of these things is not like the other -OR- My Friends [shudder]

An ongoing philosophical debate, discussion exercise in sado-necro-bestiality over the problems between Us/Them.

Them's spokesperson.

It would be far more entertaining to ENGAGE with u if u knew what the fuck u were talking about.

Reliance on what carefully selected pundits might be saying on a given day is quite a lazy way to learn and inform (see cut and paste in a chrysalis).

McCain and Rick Davis have never ceded any portion of his campaign to Rove, Mehlman, See, and quite a number of other operatives (2009).

If u think that we (conservatives) will be banished, you are delirious.

Here is the problem with your logic. You seem to believe that Bush and Rove "created" an ideology of conservatism, when in fact what Rove and Bush did was harness and hone an ideology that already exists/existed in constituencies, organized and galvanized those constituencies, and then turned out a force that won elections is 2000 and 2004.

The larger problem becomes quite evident when u deal with a contrarian voice or disagreeing text. It has been become quite evident that the typical response to a conservative point of view eventually ends up in a portrait wherein u (the liberals) seem to resort to a tactic wherein u portray ur opponent as one of subservient intellect, logic, or reasoning. And therein lies the difference between us.

Liberals see conservatives as idiots. Conservatives see liberals as different.

I'll happily remain faithful to the side of he aisle that allows discourse without sanction.


The response:

Congratulations. Your conversion is complete. Your blinders are ultra-effective and your looking glass marvels Alice's.

So John MeCain is a full-blown, card-carrying, party embraced conservative now? Maybe that's why his Maverick ruse hasn't so much flown as plummeted?
Respectfully, Liberals see conservatives as bullies pushing a wholly un-American agenda that read better in the original German. The delusion that inferior ideas can be improved by shouting, shifting and blaming marks just the beginning of its short-comings. It takes a heap of sugar coating to mask the natural repellant stench of the quasi-fascism cum authoritarian policies This partly explains the exploding budgets, deficits and debt. Only partly though. The remainder stems from their upside down reward system and greed driven squatting on the public square.

Conservatives have used negativity to demonize all save their own ideology. They are dismissive and shrill and vengeful towards competition. They indeed harnessed those common traits among blocs that were previously isolated, but when the measure of that constituency was taken, it contained little that could be turned into a foundation for leading America. Attempts to add necessary ingredients like compassion or wisdom towards positive, shared goals did not mesh with the underlying philosophy. Their answer was to flood their splintered constituency with manna from Washinton. Faith-based enrichment and unearned tax-breaks.

Can you name one reality-based, fully funded exercise in conservatism that has resulted in sustainable positive energy for the country? They have failed miserably at their plainly stated agenda. They've marked their territory with scandal, licentiousness, more bullying and abuse of the very "rules" they fought to impose. When you come right down to it, the "evil" they saw in America was their own reflection.

Admitting that would be a good first step toward becoming human again.

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